03-14-2011, 12:57 PM
100% free will in my opinion, some outcomes may be more likely than others in life but that doesn't mean I blindly attribute these events to a higher power or "grand design", that's completely illogical.
(03-14-2011, 12:57 PM)Swat Runs Train Wrote: [ -> ]100% free will in my opinion, some outcomes may be more likely than others in life but that doesn't mean I blindly attribute these events to a higher power or "grand design", that's completely illogical.
(03-14-2011, 01:03 PM)Infinity Wrote: [ -> ]"More likely" isn't Fate. I think most of the debate is around the issue of people misinterpreting what Fate actually is. And it wouldn't be quite illogical until proven wrong or having some evidence that it doesn't exist
(03-14-2011, 01:10 PM)Swat Runs Train Wrote: [ -> ]It can be illogical without proof otherwise, say you found 3 banana peels and a pile of monkey poop next to them, common sense would say a monkey ate them right? That's the most likely conclusion.
Now say some guy comes up and says he thinks the monkey was eating it but was abducted by aliens and then they ate the remaining banana.
One could practically eliminate the second answer from any logical considerations simply because it's so unlikely and "out there".
The same applies to this current debate and also to all religions.
Common sense would say when you can't know for sure, go with the most likely/logical outcome and you will come out correct more often than not.
(03-14-2011, 01:10 PM)Swat Runs Train Wrote: [ -> ]It can be illogical without proof otherwise, say you found 3 banana peels and a pile of monkey poop next to them, common sense would say a monkey ate them right? That's the most likely conclusion.Your logic is useless unless 100% percent right. Why believe "logic", maybe there was an alien. And how does this even pertain to the subject.
Now say some guy comes up and says he thinks the monkey was eating it but was abducted by aliens and then they ate the remaining banana.
One could practically eliminate the second answer from any logical considerations simply because it's so unlikely and "out there".
The same applies to this current debate and also to all religions.
Common sense would say when you can't know for sure, go with the most likely/logical outcome and you will come out correct more often than not.