07-31-2011, 04:22 AM
Quote:The criticism is still perfectly valid, because NSS Labs has not changed the flawed methodology, and still refuses to release information that would let independent parties verify the results.
Who said it was up to NSS labs to let others verify any results, they can do testing on their own. If you can't trust PCMag, I don't know what you can trust. Even if it was funded, how can you prove that they weren't just trying to get from say 3rd place to 1st place? Still a pretty decent rank.
Quote:Again, they are just quoting NSS Labs.
Provide me with a legit link and I will reconsider what I know. Sound fair?
Quote:Opera does support DEP and ASLR. I'm not sure what you are talking about here...I read about their previous version around the latest version of Opera 9 not having it. Before trying to make me look like a liar, verify it for yourself.
Quote:I pointed out that NSS Labs only claims to test "socially engineered malware." You seemed to base your general comments on security on this extremely narrow test.
NSS Labs does not test general security. They test "socially engineered malware," and the evidence clearly shows that they don't even do this well.
Do you really think that IE catches nearly all such malware, while other browsers hardly catch any? Warning bells should have been ringing right there...
You act like all web browsers are supposed to be close in security just because that was what they were designed to do here. It's like saying that a vb.net application programmed by some 2 year old to act as a calculator is almost just as good as one coded by a software developer because they are both calculators.
I pointed out several other facts for why i've claimed for Firefox for example to be a better web browser, and why IE hasn't been the greatest, but different web browsers are better for different things. with the test that I posted, the website through PCMag's words, states that NSS wasn't funded for that test. Unless they were both funded by Microsoft, which you can't guarantee as a definite truth or not. Why would PCMag cover up for NSS on this?
I dont see why you have such negative thoughts about the statistics here, for socially engineered malware in specific. I think Microsoft has the biggest database for information on how to defend against such an attack. That should sound reasonable to you. Do you think some random developer of Opera would have access to a lot of information on how to secure their web browser like that?
Quote:All browsers block malware sites.
This is like saying all web browsers browse the net. All Antiviruses block malware to some point. What is your point here? There's a level or an extent to which each does their job in terms of how well they do it.
Quote:What about those? I'm not sure what you want me to look at.
If you're just going to troll my post as the first couple posts you make on the forum then you shouldn't be on this thread. I was giving you some research information to look at since you're so focused on how NSS displays their results.
I'll look into NSS further, as it was new to me, but you're completely closed minded to what you don't want to hear. IE9 is fairly new, and Firefox development is starting up as well. You can't hold on to the same beliefs from 2010 just because you don't like Microsoft or something else.