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Mmmm, Bye Bye Kaspersky - Grizzly - 10-18-2009

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/16/kaspersky_rebukes_net_anonymity/
Quote:The CEO of Russia's No. 1 anti-virus package has said that the internet's biggest security vulnerability is anonymity, calling for mandatory internet passports that would work much like driver licenses do in the offline world.

The comments by Eugene Kaspersky, who is also the founder of Kaspersky Lab, came during an interview this week with Vivian Yeo of ZDNet Asia. In it, he proposed the formation of an internet police body that would require users everywhere to be uniquely identified.

"Everyone should and must have an identification, or internet passport," he was quoted as saying. "The internet was designed not for public use, but for American scientists and the US military. Then it was introduced to the public and it was wrong...to introduce it in the same way."

Kaspersky, whose comments are raising the eyebrows of some civil liberties advocates, went on to say such a system shouldn't be voluntary.

"I'd like to change the design of the internet by introducing regulation - internet passports, internet police and international agreement - about following internet standards," he continued. "And if some countries don't agree with or don't pay attention to the agreement, just cut them off."

He rejected the notion that internet protocol numbers were sufficient for tracking a user, arguing they are too easy to come by.

"You're not sure who exactly has the connection," he explained. "Even if the IP address is traced to an internet cafe, they will not know who the customer or person is behind the attacks. Think about cars - you have plates on cars, but you also have driver licenses."

Kaspersky was traveling on Friday and not available to be interviewed for this article. A company spokeswoman declined to comment.

Kaspersky admitted such a system would be hard to put in place because of the cost and difficulty of reaching international agreements. But remarkably, his interview transcript spends no time contemplating the inevitable downsides that would come in a world where internet anonymity is a thing of the past.

"You could make the same argument about the offline world," said Matt Zimmerman, a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "You know, every purchase you make should be tracked, we should ban the use of cash, we should put cameras up everywhere because in that massive data collection something might be collected to help someone. But we think privacy is an important enough countervailing value that we should prevent that."

In Kaspersky's world, services such as Psiphon and The Onion Router (Tor) - which are legitimately used by Chinese dissidents and Google users alike to shield personally identifiable information - would no longer be legal. Or at least they'd have to be redesigned from the ground up to give police the ability to surveil them. That's not the kind of world many law-abiding citizens would feel comfortable inhabiting.

And aside from the disturbing big-brother scenario, there are the problematic logistics of requiring every internet user anywhere in the world to connect using an internationally approved device that authenticates his unique identity. There's no telling how many innovations might be squashed under a system like that.

No doubt, the cybercriminals that Kaspersky has valiantly fought for more than a decade are only getting better at finding ways to exploit weaknesses in internet technologies increasingly at the heart of the way we shop, socialize and work. But to paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, those who sacrifice net liberty for incremental increases in security no doubt will get neither.

Uninstallation, complete.


RE: Mmmm, Bye Bye Kaspersky - cheeseburger - 10-18-2009

(10-18-2009, 08:28 AM)Grizzly Wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/16/kaspersky_rebukes_net_anonymity/

Uninstallation, complete.

I've never used Kaspersky, currently on Avast, thinking of switching to Nod32? What's the best on the market these days?


RE: Mmmm, Bye Bye Kaspersky - Grizzly - 10-18-2009

Well, the army gives me McAffe and Symnatec or whatever it is free. I use Avast. That MS Security Essentials was nice until it blue screened my laptop. There really is no best per say. Just upload any files to novirusthanks.org and click submit, resubmit in 3 days.


RE: Mmmm, Bye Bye Kaspersky - cheeseburger - 10-18-2009

(10-18-2009, 08:33 AM)Grizzly Wrote: Well, the army gives me McAffe and Symnatec or whatever it is free. I use Avast. That MS Security Essentials was nice until it blue screened my laptop. There really is no best per say. Just upload any files to novirusthanks.org and click submit, resubmit in 3 days.

What does NASA/Pentagon use?


RE: Mmmm, Bye Bye Kaspersky - Aaron*1 - 10-18-2009

(10-18-2009, 08:41 AM)Agent Wrote: What does NASA/Pentagon use?

Probably something which they develop themselves...


RE: Mmmm, Bye Bye Kaspersky - Headshot - 10-18-2009

I've never used Kaspersky and never will. It's crap, anyways.


RE: Mmmm, Bye Bye Kaspersky - Grizzly - 10-18-2009

(10-18-2009, 08:41 AM)Agent Wrote: What does NASA/Pentagon use?

Lol I don't know what NASA/Pentagon uses. I know what the Army uses on my work computer.

(10-18-2009, 09:14 AM)Aaron*1 Wrote: Probably something which they develop themselves...

Probably not. It's the government, they just bought Windows Vista Licenses from MS in August......


RE: Mmmm, Bye Bye Kaspersky - InsideSin - 10-18-2009

Lol thanks for the info, I was about to switch to Kaspersky but reading this it has made me think twice about it.

(10-18-2009, 01:08 PM)Grizzly Wrote: Lol I don't know what NASA/Pentagon uses. I know what the Army uses on my work computer.

(10-18-2009, 09:14 AM)Aaron*1 Wrote: Probably something which they develop themselves...
Probably not. It's the government, they just bought Windows Vista Licenses from MS in August......

Well I hope they use something developed by themselves, otherwise wouldn't that be a vulnerability right there?


RE: Mmmm, Bye Bye Kaspersky - Elektrisk - 10-19-2009

Quote:"And if some countries don't agree with or don't pay attention to the agreement, just cut them off."

Why doesn't it surprise me that a Russian is saying this? Roflmao

"Fu|ck their opinion. It's my way or the highway."


RE: Mmmm, Bye Bye Kaspersky - Guerreiro - 10-19-2009

That guy is bonkers, they make a good product, but he remains totally daft.